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"We the People"
by Rabbi Yakov Horowitz

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7/2/08

Dear Readers:

When I first opened my website to unfiltered comments two years ago, nearly all my friends told me that it would be a matter of days before I would need to screen the comments, or shut down the comment feature altogether. I have always believed in the inherent goodness of the silent majority of people – starting with talmidim who were written off by others and extending to all the members of our kehilah. I think that my faith in the decency of people has been proven correct, as this website has become a place for people to productively discuss chinuch matters and the real issues of the day.

However, some abuse of these privileges has taken place by a small minority of posters. Unfortunately, this is enough to ruin things for the majority of legitimate readers and posters who find benefit from this site. What’s a website host to do?

Starting tomorrow, each post will have a hyperlink next to it which reads, “Report This Post.” When clicked, members will have the opportunity to state why they find the post objectionable. The website will automatically tally and rank these complaints, and as appropriate, delete the post and replace it with the words, “Removed by community.” When I, or one of the site’s administrators remove a post, it will still state, “Removed by Admin.” Reporters of abuse will be required to be logged in as a member, and will need to enter their real email address which will be kept confidential, and not added to any mailing list.

I feel that this improvement will allow me to maintain the democratic process of respectful comments, al pi Torah, and allow us to continue to discuss the parenting and communal issues that affect us all. I respectfully ask that posted comments stick to such issues. I ask that we all:

1) Maintain a respectful tone to our gedolim and rabbanim at all times.

2) Maintain a respectful tone to each other when disagreeing.

3) Refrain from personal attacks and divulging personal information.

Your cooperation is much appreciated.

Respectfully,

Yakov Horowitz



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1. Just a quick comment.     7/2/08 - 3:44 PM
Anonymous

I think it's great that you are doing this. It will still allow for open communications while still allowing for some sort of moderation. I would just like to note that I would have written #1 as "Respect for gedolim and rabbonim" and not necessarily " OUR ".


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2. Rabbonim!     7/3/08 - 7:10 AM
C

Dear Rabbi Horowitz,

I am a big fan of yours especially since you seem to be doing most of the work that needs to be done by others all by yourself.

However, I have a slight problem with the Rabbonim issue. Putting aside my own personal views of Rabbonim, if there are multiple cases of various Rabbonim signing or agreeing to various causes or in some cases unfortunatley covering up for abuse - how in the world am I expected to respect them? In writing too?!


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3. Being respectful     7/3/08 - 9:27 AM
Benzion Twerski

Rabbonim. Yes. We should be required to be respectful of Rabbonim. I am sure there may be some who are considered Rabbonim but may not deserve the honor accorded to them. And it is possible to have complaints and ta’anos on them. This website opens that freedom of speech to us, and it enables us to discuss the issues to gain more clarity. I feel strongly that this process is good. It is just that this process is abused when this public forum is utilized to shmear Rabbonim, whether in general or specifically. I am not without complaints, some quite intense, about Rabbonim, both particular ones and in general. However, the public forum should not be used disrespectfully.

Complaints do not constitute bashing. Just be respectful. Or more accurately, don’t be disrespectful.


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4. Being Respectful     7/3/08 - 10:14 AM
Eliezer - Toronto

I second Dr. Twerski's comments about being respectful to Rabbanim (not that he needs my haskama).

I would add that, in my view, being respectful primarily means focusing on the issue, not the person. For example, "I am very disappointed that many Rabbanim seem to be doing X, or not doing Y" would be respectful. On the other hand, "Rabbanim are a bunch of idiots" would be disrespectful.

As an aside, respectful communication is essential in all inter-personal relationships. Perhaps if our community would improve in this area, the divorce rate would go down dramatically.


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5. From Concerned Parents     7/8/08 - 4:36 PM
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With sincere appreciation for the very helpful advice we have gotten here on important parenting issues, we turn to Rav Horowitz SHLIT"A for advice on a difficult matter.

Our daughters are students in a Bais Yaakov high school (far from New York). Since its founding over forty years ago, the school has admitted girls from a range of backgrounds and has successfully emphasized Bais Yaakov Hashkafos together with excellence in both Limudei Kodesh and Limudei Chol -- all in a friendly, loving manner.

A year ago, a new school board was "elected." Using intimidation and pressure tactics, its chairman fired the popular Charedi principal and single-handedly is imposing left-wing Hashkafos, in spite of opposition from majorities of the parents, teachers, and Rabbonim of the school's Vaad HaChinuch.

Due to apathy and fear of reprisal, organizing the parents as a group has not worked. Moving our daughters to the other (Charedi) Bais Yaakov high school is not feasible, because that school is full.

What can be done to help our daughters and those of like-minded concerned parents?


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6. To Concerned Parents     7/9/08 - 2:27 PM
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It sounds like you need personalized advice and I'm not sure that this is the best way to reach Rabbi Horowitz.

You might want to try sending an email to Project Yes ( projectyes@pyes.org ) requesting either Rabbi Horowitz's direct email address or that your question be forwarded to Rabbi Horowitz.

We wish you much hatzlacha in resolving this issue soon.


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7. Comment No. 5     7/14/08 - 7:45 AM
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We join our fellow Concerned Parents in protesting the hijacking of the ___ ___ Bais Yaakov High School of ___ by a small group of outside businessmen (a chairman and board of directors, most of whom do not have children in the school).

How dare you fire the principal and further your personal agendas, contrary to the wishes of the vast majorities of the parents, teachers, and Rabbis of the Vaad HaChinuch!

We demand that the Principal be restored and -- with the teachers and Vaad HaChinuch -- enabled to continue their productive efforts on behalf of our daughters!


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8. To #7     7/14/08 - 3:24 PM
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The situation you describe doesn’t appear to be a no-confidence measure with the principal. If his/her contract wasn’t renewed, the parent body would surely have been informed in January. Most likely his/her contract was bought out, and he/she did a good job as pricipal. It’s a no-confidence vote on the Vaad Hachinuch. Most likely their actions/inactions vis-à-vis the community is what caused the uproar.

Therefore, your anger should be directed at the Vaad. Yelling at the oard to listen to the Vaad they are trying to discipline is pointless. Sometimes, a board takes decisive action to affect a citywide ripple effect of change.


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9. To #8     7/15/08 - 4:13 PM
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10. To #8     7/15/08 - 4:37 PM
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Respectfully disagree.

1. The termination of this principal -- like those of his three immediate predecessors -- has been accompanied by a campaign of slander against him/her by board members (who are NOT educators, and most of whom do not have children in the school), alleging incompetence. When asked by the parents to produce professional evaluations, the chairman refuses, saying they are confidential. We have spoken to some who have seen these evaluations and claim they are supportive of the principal.

2. Who is qualified to evaluate educators? Obviously a Vaad HaChinuch composed of Rabbanim and Mechanchim; NOT a board of directors made up of businessmen, most of whom do not have children in the school.


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11. Shouldn't the Parents Decide?     7/15/08 - 4:46 PM
Concerned Parents

Why is it that this and other similar educational decisions are made by boards of directors of outside businessmen (with no credentials in Chinuch)in secret sessions, with no input from the parents or rabbis?


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12. Respect     7/15/08 - 5:04 PM
Asher Lipner, Ph.D.

I agree with Dr. Twerski and Eliezer of Toronto. There are good rabbis and bad rabbis, just like there are good people and bad people, but we must treat everyone with a certain amount of respect, especially in a public forum. I have seen people use this blog to not only criticize but even to "mussar" people outright. Again, this can be done respectfully or disrespectfully.

Yasher Koach to Rabbi Horowitz for "keeping it real" by both addressing this problem in a forthright manner, but still allowing for the voices of all to be heard.


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13. Re. Comments No. 5, 7, 10, and 11     7/18/08 - 8:58 AM
Disturbed Parents

It is terrible that a small group of businessmen is destroying a Bais Yaakov high school that has taken two generations of young women from a wide range of backgrounds and made them into true Nshei Chayil with Bais Yaakov Hashkafos...

But at least they should be honest. Why do they still use the name "...Bais Yaakov High School..." They should change it to "Academy for Girls."


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14. Re. Comments No. 5, 7, 10, 11 and 13     7/18/08 - 2:40 PM
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Being on a board of directors of an organization, but particularly Jewish schools, is a major responsibility. The board is charged with marketing of the school to differentiate between Bais Yaakov and THE Bais Yaakov. Something that will make it unique above it’s peers, something the market is missing, and something that will drive revenues (AKA Fundraising). If the board doesn’t have this marketing scheme in place, the organization will cease to thrive, or significantly raise internal capital (AKA tuition).

While you may or may not agree with the decision of the visionary board of directors, this is how they chose to market themselves. It is not like the school is turning Conservative, or anything remotely similar. If you are that unhappy with the proposal, you agree that the other Bais Yaakov High School is closer to your Hashkafah. By all means go there, the principals there would love to take your precious daughters.

As an aside: 1] I believe the board of directors admires, appreciates and is grateful for the principal’s years of selfless dedication to the girls. They will certainly give the highest recommendation which the principal richly deserves.

The only reason they went negative was because of your misguided campaign against the board of directors.

2] I believe that if your daughter has any difficulty securing a place in the other Bais Yaakov, the Vaad Hachinuch will work hard to make it happen. No student should ever be forced to settle for second best.

3] Calling an all girls school Bais Yaakov, Academy for Girls, Girls High School Etc. is just semantics.

The board decision is a clear sign of the overall direction of your city. It sounds like things are changing quickly there. Either put up with the change, try the other school, or find a city with likeminded individuals as yourselves.


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15. Re. Comments No. 5, 7, 10, 11, 13, and 14     7/18/08 - 5:26 PM
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The Hashkafah of a school should be determined jointly by the parents, teachers, Hanhalah, Vaad HaChinuch, and other interested parties; not imposed unilaterally by a board of businessmen (most of whom do not have children in the school), as is being done in this case.


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16. Hakoras HaTov     7/23/08 - 7:15 PM
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I apologize for the interruption of service.

LiChvod Moreinu HaRav Horowitz SHLIT"A: We sincerely appreciate the very helpful expert Torah-oriented advice you provide herein and all your efforts and those of your associates in maintaining this valuable Web site. Respectfully,


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17.     7/24/08 - 5:21 PM
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The board is ultimately responsible for the well-being of the school. If something happens and the school is found liable, who's problem is it? It's not the principal, it's not the faculty, nor the Vaad Hachinuch. It's the dedicated individuals who out of the goodness of their hearts have taken on the thankless job of being board members of the school. For you to have the audacity to criticize their "agenda" is a very telling statement about your character.

Don't gloat about your successful campaign against those who take care of the welfare of the school. What happens if the same "left-wingers" stop supporting the "right-wing" institutions who rely on these angels to bail them out?????


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18. Please See Comment No. 15     7/24/08 - 8:08 PM
Concerned Parents

To Commenter No. 18: The Hashkafah of a school should be determined jointly by the parents, teachers, Hanhalah, Vaad HaChinuch, and other interested parties; not imposed unilaterally by a board of businessmen (most of whom do not have children in the school), as is being done in this case.


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19. Re. Comments No. 5, 7, 10, 11, 13, 15, and 19     8/4/08 - 10:59 AM
Many Concerned Parents

It is unfortunate that the principal was terminated after five very successful years of supervising and guiding the education of our daughters. We know we speak for the vast majority of parents, teachers, and members of the Vaad HaChinuch and the community at large by expressing a sincere Hakoras HaTov for all his efforts.

Now he is seeking a new position and Parnasah for his family. Anyone who can help him please contact Rav Shimon Zehnwirth in Chicago.


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20. Comment No. 20     8/5/08 - 6:28 AM
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This is addressed to Rav Horowitz SHLIT"A and the professional Mechanchim and Mechanchos who visit this Web site.

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